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This will discuss several stances that deny the self, in different ways. Some interpretations of the Buddhist doctrine of anatman are nihilist in denying that the self exists at all. Some materialist views are also nihilistic denials. And then there are religious or ethical views of “selflessness” that hold that the self is existent but ought not to be, or ought to be ignored or undermined or subjugated or denied or generally kicked around.