Comments on ““Ultimate”: use carefully”

Yes, I liked that post of yours. High weirdness by internet.

You might like Robert Ellis’ web site; his central thesis is a more thorough-going rejection of all metaphysics than practically anyone else’s. (Caution: he uses “objectivity” in a non-standard way.) His work is closer to mine, at least in form, than anything else.

I think you are right that at least part of the reason “everyone” thinks it’s very important to get the metaphysics straight is that it is a route to prestige and power.

I’ve started a metablog series on monism. As part of that I will point out that monism, in every case I have studied apart from the current “pop spirituality” manifestation, has been a tool of an imperial state against the priesthood. The logic of monism inevitably points to totalitarianism. This should give contemporary monists pause.

David

Funny, I was composing a page in my head while hiking yesterday, and gave it the title “X considered harmful” (where X was another metaphysical bad idea). I thought probably no one would get the joke, but since you’ve beaten me to it, obviously at least one reader will…

I think monism and dualism are equally wrong (or, rather, I can’t see how to compare their wrongness). Plenty wrong, anyhow!

“Monism” is used for quite a number of different claims of unity. I do think the underlying logic and emotional appeal is the same for many/most/all of them. Part of the evidence for that is that they appear to co-occur historically.

Monism is an imperial strategy. Historically, it first appeared in the ancient world as a tool of the first great empires, who rolled up a bunch of polytheistic tribes, and needed a way to stop the priests of the many tribes from quarreling. The line that “all gods are really just aspects of the same characteristic-free Absolute Divinity” was a clever (and successful) way of doing that.

Emperors don’t care which god is the One God (so they are happy for the One God to be devoid of specifics). Advocates for particular One Gods later adopted monism as a weapon against other gods. There the line is “All gods are really One—so your god is perfectly valid—but actually your god is just an aspect of our One God.”

Hindu Advaita Vedanta, invented by Adi Shankara around 800, is the best example. He developed it as a weapon against Buddhism, and it is still used that way right now. You can easily find internet forums in which Hindus loudly insist that Buddhism says exactly the same thing as Hinduism, because all religions are one, and all Gods are aspects of Brahman, and so the Buddhist God is the same as Brahman. They seem undeterred by the insistence of Buddhists that there is no Buddhist God, and counter-insist that Buddhists don’t understand Buddhism.

So, yes, monists agree that “all Gods are One God, namely our God, and your religion is the same as ours, except that you are confused about it.” And naturally that leads to a degree of conflict.

I am with Marvin on this one!

There are many good people with excellent intentions who propagate monism. And doubtless some strains are more or less imperial than others. (I know almost nothing about Bahá’í.)

Part of the appeal of monism is that it seems to teach tolerance. Religious rivalry is a horrible thing, responsible for millions of death. If all religions are one, we can all just get along, right?

The problem is that monism teaches not actual tolerance, but intolerance of difference. If you say “actually, in Buddhism, we don’t believe in any eternal ordering principle”, that is unacceptable, because in the One Religion (that all religions are just versions of) there is definitely an eternal ordering principle; it is just called by different names in different faiths. If you say “I have no problem with your believing in that—but Buddhism is different”, you are accused of being aggressive, because you seem to think your religion is better, and that is (after all) what causes religious hatred, isn’t it?

There’s a fine essay about this by Stephen Prothero, who also wrote a book about it, called God Is Not One.

I don’t know what was taught in Chicago in the 1970s… it may have been influenced by German Romantic Idealism… but traditionally, Judaism was (of course) monotheistic, not monist. It thought that the differences between gods were extremely important. They were not One at all. There was Yahweh, who was the right god, and all other gods were evil and/or non-existent. As you probably know, the Hebrews were originally polytheists, but the priests of Yahweh managed to grab enough power at one point to ban the worship of all the other gods (thereby putting competing priests out of business). Whereas monism is associated with secular power against priestly power, monothesism is the expression of priestly power over secular authority.

Anyway, I’ve just posted a piece unpacking the complex of monist ideas. You can see which of them (if any) you subscribe to…