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Agendaless Attention

George L. Vockroth's picture

In respect of a meditation method, “that specifically trains you in the agendaless attention that wanders about according to its evolving fascinations,” there is this:

“Whatever thoughts or afflictions arise, don’t reject them…
Recognize them at the very instant they arise…
Thoughts are liberated just by simply recognizing them.” [MM117]
“Rest the mind directly
on the recognition of the identity of whatever arises…
If you become used to resting on their identity,
thoughts will cause no harm;
rather, thoughts themselves will then become the main practice.” [RSM84]
“No matter how many identified thoughts you have,
there is no problem at all.
You don’t need to deliberately achieve a certain stillness.” [RSM87]
“In the very natural condition of your mind,
the state of things as they are,
there is not even the slightest taint, obscuration, or anything considered impure
that needs to be eliminated or expelled.” [RSM282]

MM - Peter Alan Roberts, “The Mind of Mahamudra”
RSM - Gerardo Abboud, “The Royal Seal of Mahamudra”

Thoughts are liberated just by recognizing them

Thanks! Yes, sort of, but not quite what I had in mind. (Mahamudra is similar to Dzogchen, as I’m sure you know, and this practice is a familiar one.) I was thinking of attention to five-sense perception rather than to thoughts. And also a more active sort of attention than this. There are practices in Dzogchen (and I expect Mahamudra) in which five-sense perception is liberated similarly; but they are more, hmm, passive than what I am imagining, less passionately involved, less fascinated.


Emma's picture

I’m excited you have started drawing out your ideas on the complete stance itself as opposed to just the pitfalls it avoids—this page was a joy to read.

It does seem that further development and articulation of how practice is critical here. Without it, where does that leave people with a naturally low openness to experience? Or who have any other personal or contextual stumbling block that makes experiencing wonder less likely?

Looking forward to reading the pages on play and creativity, as they seem the most active and therefore perhaps the most available for practice. If not, what do you think the most accessible entry points are to the complete stance?

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