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Definition lookup for Existentialism

Andreas Keller 2016-10-19

The lookup for the definition of Existentialism does not work.

Existentialism is fixed

David Chapman 2016-10-20

Thank you very much for letting me know! I have fixed it.

New (incomplete) existentialism page

David Chapman 2016-10-20

Since this came up: I’ve now also added a draft page for the introductory discussion of why existentialism fails.

It will eventually get a lot more detail and historical discussion, but the draft gives a complete skeleton of the explanation.

Taoism

I wouldn’t characterize Taoism as advocating only non-doing. Instead doing only what is within one’s nature, and not struggling beyond it. Which feels very much like a complete stance.

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David Chapman 2016-10-22

Thank you for that! I know very little about Taoism. I said “some interpretations of” in order to hedge that—and I have read some popular explanations that do make it about non-doing. I’m not surprised they are inaccurate.

On reflection, mentioning Taoism and Buddhism was irrelevant and unnecessary anyway, so I’ve simply deleted the whole sentence.

Daoism (Taoism), "Wu wei," Hinduism, Zen

Trevor 2018-07-02

I wouldn’t characterize Taoism as advocating only non-doing. Instead doing only what is within one’s nature, and not struggling beyond it. Which feels very much like a complete stance.

I agree with Christopher’s comment. I have done a bit of reading and research on this topic (Daoism in particular) and the idea of 无为 (wu2wei2) or “non-action” is actually even defined in Pleco (a very good Chinese-English dictionary) as: “do nothing and let things take their own course (a basic concept in Taoism, understood as no unnatural action rather than complete passivity”. I am not sure if you have learned about Hinduism (and I still have not read extensively yet) but there seems to be a similar concept in the Bhagavad Gita when Krishna (Vishnu) tells Arjuna a similar idea: ‘act without acting.’ That is, to act without personal attachment. I think it likely has nuanced differences (such as in the Hindu idea of duty and whatnot) but it has stood out to me as an interesting point.

Also of interest is that I have read that Zen Buddhism originated from a mixture of Daoist and Buddhist ideas in China that made their way to Japan.

How to reject horrible meanings?

KannDraws 2022-11-28

Thanks for this awesome blog! Definitely the most accessible entry (for my mathy brain) to the topic.

I’ve frequently reasoned myself out of nihilism as you’ve described. I find it harder to reason myself out of (disturbing) eternalisms I encounter, such as “we should Thanos, because of utilitarianism.”

Is there a way to reject horrible meanings backed by reasonable-sounding arguments? There are plenty of counterarguments to be had, but none seem to definitively ‘win’ the debate.

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